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  Exemplars: Human genome, Dendral for crystallography structure. GSK R&D on drug discovery. How did these come about? What was the background of these people? A lot of the examples we have come up with were integration within one person's head. And mostly it seems to be scientists picking up computer skills. So how do we get the conversation going the other way? Jobs will be in some domain, something like CS applications survey course. In the other direction: CS using the other sciences. Bio-inspired, Neural nets, robotics, genetic algorithms Language. Other than having students learning each other's fields, the main idea we came up with was the broad general idea of "science as discovering the rules or model that underly the real world" as a focus for conversations in BOTH directions. (Discover the model, use the model).